Next OC, who ya got? (It’s Godsey)

[GoJacketsInRaleigh]

Did he get permission from Quinlan to tweet that?

 

[RamblinWreck_1995]

Can someone with more ball knowledge explain why Godsey gets a bad rap for his experience?

2014-16, Houston went 9-7 each year and finished mid pack on offense in 14-15. That feels pretty good for a team with Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler, and Ryan Mallett at QB.

In 2021, Miami finished 9-8. Not the best year for him and Tua, but I think the offense taking off had as much to do with them getting Tyreek Hill as getting a new OC.

Baltimore’s TEs have performed well under him. Mark Andrews and Isiah Likely are two major targets. He was the Patriots’ TE coach during the Gronk/Hernandez years. He was the Lions’ QB coach post-Megatron, Stafford had some middling years but it was good enough to put up numbers.

Recruiting is a big hole in his resume to be sure, but I don’t remember him being a failed NFL project like the consensus seems to be…

This is exactly the same question I have been asking. Genuinely I don’t understand. Seems like the fanbase would be more excited? Maybe because it is not the “hot up and coming name” in CFB in terms of OC’s in football.

But I also think that Key may have factored longevity into his decision. Meaning, hopefully Godsey will have a little more loyalty since he is an alum. I imagine and hoping he is building something great and retention of staff is a big part, to me at least it is.

 

[jeffgt14]

Can someone with more ball knowledge explain why Godsey gets a bad rap for his experience?

2014-16, Houston went 9-7 each year and finished mid pack on offense in 14-15. That feels pretty good for a team with Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler, and Ryan Mallett at QB.

In 2021, Miami finished 9-8. Not the best year for him and Tua, but I think the offense taking off had as much to do with them getting Tyreek Hill as getting a new OC.

Baltimore’s TEs have performed well under him. Mark Andrews and Isiah Likely are two major targets. He was the Patriots’ TE coach during the Gronk/Hernandez years. He was the Lions’ QB coach post-Megatron, Stafford had some middling years but it was good enough to put up numbers.

Recruiting is a big hole in his resume to be sure, but I don’t remember him being a failed NFL project like the consensus seems to be…

I have no doubt in my mind that Goose is a great coach. I'm not sold on him as a playcaller.

While Faulkner could get predictable at times, he also wasn't afraid to run the ball on a 3rd and 8 and even if it didn't work that specific time, it keeps defenses honest. The playcalls were a lot more varied than most people here think. If anything, we were limited at times by King's inaccuracy after setting up for a shot.

I don't know if Goose has that ability to keep our offense unpredictable. Hopefully he picked up some of the motion concepts from Monken.

 

[pittkesh99]

I mean I’m not sure why we’re even excited about his “NFL level experience”. He’s been a horrible position coach in the NFL everywhere he’s gone and has been promptly fired or let go.

2012-2013 (TE coach for the Pats):
It’s hard to tell here because of Gronk’s injuries, but Gronk performed around the same or slightly worse after Godsey got there

2014 (QB coach for the Texans):
Again hard to tell because it was a crappy set of QBs, but none of the QBs he had played or looked any better from before he got there

2015-2016 (Texans OC):
Before Godsey got there, they were around 17th in the NFL in offense
In the 2 years Godsey was there, they fell to 19th and then 29th
After Godsey left, the jumped back up to 20th (even though to be fair, this was helped by the drafting of Deshaun Watson)

2018 (Lions QB Coach):
(Outside of his first 2 years), this was arguably the worst season of Stafford’s career. He was much better before this season and much better after, but massively regressed in 2018

2019-2020 (Dolphins TE Coach):
Not much to say here, but I’ll give credit for the development of Mike Gesicki

2021 (Dolphins Co-OC):
The offense got worse compared to 2020, but got way better in 2022 (But you can attribute that to Tyreek)

2022-Present (Ravens TE Coach):
Mark Andrews had an elite year in 2021 and has gotten worse every following year since Godsey took over to the point where he’s a joke. Isaiah Likely has looked the same since he got drafted and has regressed slightly. I have a couple of Ravens fan who hate Godsey because of how crappy the TE position has gone with him

So what I see in Godsey is a coach that has never shown the ability to elevate and develop players in the NFL, but has shown the ability to make offenses and players worse (as also demonstrated by how frequently he moves teams after terrible seasons). That, added with the fact that it’s been 15 years since he last was in the college game (So does he have any recruiting connections or know how to work recruiting in the modern day) and that he’s not coming from another school and can bring players over makes him a shockingly bad hire; Especially since the administration made it seem like they would have no stone unturned to have an elite OC.

The only reason I can imagine Key wanting to hire Godsey would be because they’re friends (Played/coached together at GT and then coached together at UCF)

 

[GTNavyNuke]

This is exactly the same question I have been asking. Genuinely I don’t understand. Seems like the fanbase would be more excited? Maybe because it is not the “hot up and coming name” in CFB in terms of OC’s in football.

But I also think that Key may have factored longevity into his decision. Meaning, hopefully Godsey will have a little more loyalty since he is an alum. I imagine and hoping he is building something great and retention of staff is a big part, to me at least it is.

I think being an alum will increase the retention by a month or two. Key wants to get the best OC he can and have him succeed. That the OC will be desirable higher up the food chain is an unfortunate consequence of being good and successful.

 

[Techster]

I have no doubt in my mind that Goose is a great coach. I'm not sold on him as a playcaller.

While Faulkner could get predictable at times, he also wasn't afraid to run the ball on a 3rd and 8 and even if it didn't work that specific time, it keeps defenses honest. The playcalls were a lot more varied than most people here think. If anything, we were limited at times by King's inaccuracy after setting up for a shot.

I don't know if Goose has that ability to keep our offense unpredictable. Hopefully he picked up some of the motion concepts from Monken.

I was going over the 2024 UGA game versus the 2025 UGA game, one thing that stuck out to me: Faulkner didn't really make use of pre snap motion this year like he did in 2024. Not just the volume, but which positions.

The offense this year just seemed a bit "off" from previous years. Maybe it's just in my head, but I didn't see the same creativity this year that I saw in 2023 and 2024.

 

[Techwood Relict]

So I wandered over to ramblinwreck.com to check out the current coaching roster. I wanted to see if Weinke retained his Co-OC label. It's still there, but the new OC hasn't been loaded yet. Makes me wonder if Coach Weinke is going to be the primary offensive recruiter and our new OC will the closer for certain guys.

As an aside, I did not know that DeAndre Smelter was on the staff as QC-WR. Great for him and GT.

 

[Techster]

He was the Lions’ QB coach post-Megatron, Stafford had some middling years but it was good enough to put up numbers.

The OC at the time there was a guy named Jim Bob Cooter. Another poster is trying to blame Godsey for Stafford for having a "bad" year when the OC was Cooter...I mean, come on.

 

[Techwood Relict]

I have no doubt in my mind that Goose is a great coach. I'm not sold on him as a playcaller.

I understand the reservation. As another poster said, Goose is a GT grad, ergo, he's a smart guy. My hope is that he embraces the new opportunity and brings passion to the position.

It seems like there may be change afoot in Baltimore after this year. Goose leaving may be a peak behind the curtain.

 

[jeffgt14]

I was going over the 2024 UGA game versus the 2025 UGA game, one thing that stuck out to me: Faulkner didn't really make use of pre snap motion this year like he did in 2024. Not just the volume, but which positions.

The offense this year just seemed a bit "off" from previous years. Maybe it's just in my head, but I didn't see the same creativity this year that I saw in 2023 and 2024.

Maybe a little. There 100% was less WR end arounds which could be attributed to the loss of Singleton. Also could be because we didn't have Williams and Hawes blocking on the edge as well.

We definitely lost some talent that we couldn't replace. I'd like to think Rivers could've ran the same plays as Singleton but we definitely didn't use him the same way.

 

[Techster]

Maybe a little. There 100% was less WR end arounds which could be attributed to the loss of Singleton. Also could be because we didn't have Williams and Hawes blocking on the edge as well.

We definitely lost some talent that we couldn't replace. I'd like to think Rivers could've ran the same plays as Singleton but we definitely didn't use him the same way.

Allen emerged in the Singleton role later in the season. He was probably the only WR with the speed to get to the edge. Rivers had some carries off the jet sweep, but he didn't have the speed to get to the edge.

I didn't see as many TE motions on run plays this year, the orbit motion disappeared, our switching of the strong side became less. Did we even try to run screen off an option read this year?

Of course, that may be just my perception. Without charting it all, it's a bit of confirmation bias.

 

[GT_05]

I was going over the 2024 UGA game versus the 2025 UGA game, one thing that stuck out to me: Faulkner didn't really make use of pre snap motion this year like he did in 2024. Not just the volume, but which positions.

The offense this year just seemed a bit "off" from previous years. Maybe it's just in my head, but I didn't see the same creativity this year that I saw in 2023 and 2024.

It’s hard to interview for a new job and game plan at the same time.

 

[apatriot1776]

I mean I’m not sure why we’re even excited about his “NFL level experience”. He’s been a horrible position coach in the NFL everywhere he’s gone and has been promptly fired or let go.

2012-2013 (TE coach for the Pats):
It’s hard to tell here because of Gronk’s injuries, but Gronk performed around the same or slightly worse after Godsey got there

2014 (QB coach for the Texans):
Again hard to tell because it was a crappy set of QBs, but none of the QBs he had played or looked any better from before he got there

2015-2016 (Texans OC):
Before Godsey got there, they were around 17th in the NFL in offense
In the 2 years Godsey was there, they fell to 19th and then 29th
After Godsey left, the jumped back up to 20th (even though to be fair, this was helped by the drafting of Deshaun Watson)

2018 (Lions QB Coach):
(Outside of his first 2 years), this was arguably the worst season of Stafford’s career. He was much better before this season and much better after, but massively regressed in 2018

2019-2020 (Dolphins TE Coach):
Not much to say here, but I’ll give credit for the development of Mike Gesicki

2021 (Dolphins Co-OC):
The offense got worse compared to 2020, but got way better in 2022 (But you can attribute that to Tyreek)

2022-Present (Ravens TE Coach):
Mark Andrews had an elite year in 2021 and has gotten worse every following year since Godsey took over to the point where he’s a joke. Isaiah Likely has looked the same since he got drafted and has regressed slightly. I have a couple of Ravens fan who hate Godsey because of how crappy the TE position has gone with him

So what I see in Godsey is a coach that has never shown the ability to elevate and develop players in the NFL, but has shown the ability to make offenses and players worse (as also demonstrated by how frequently he moves teams after terrible seasons). That, added with the fact that it’s been 15 years since he last was in the college game (So does he have any recruiting connections or know how to work recruiting in the modern day) and that he’s not coming from another school and can bring players over makes him a shockingly bad hire; Especially since the administration made it seem like they would have no stone unturned to have an elite OC.

The only reason I can imagine Key wanting to hire Godsey would be because they’re friends (Played/coached together at GT and then coached together at UCF)

Before Godsey got to Houston, they had Matt Schaub and afterward they got Deshaun Watson. Both Pro Bowl guys. I’m more inclined to attribute the Texans’ dip in offense to pinning their fortunes on Ryan Mallett and Brock Osweiler.

Andrews fell off from elite to just okay because he suffered a catastrophic leg injury in 2023, one of the Joe Theismann types where your leg gains an extra joint.

Prime Stafford regressing is probably the best argument against, but he was also throwing to Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay as his WR1 instead of Calvin Johnson

In all, I see his experience as okay, not great and not awful. I don’t think we can expect a guy with a flawless resume to want to come here.

 

[bke1984]

Count me in the unimpressed category. Two years of play calling experience for a mediocre and a horrible offense in the NFL. But here’s the thing - worst case we let Weinke take over play calling duties as co OC. The DC hire is probably way more important.

 

[cpf2001]

Allen emerged in the Singleton role later in the season. He was probably the only WR with the speed to get to the edge. Rivers had some carries off the jet sweep, but he didn't have the speed to get to the edge.

I didn't see as many TE motions on run plays this year, the orbit motion disappeared, our switching of the strong side became less. Did we even try to run screen off an option read this year?

Of course, that may be just my perception. Without charting it all, it's a bit of confirmation bias.

Something fun: Rivers had more yards per carry in 2025 than Singleton 2024. But on 7 instead of 21 carries. So it’s curious that we went away from him.

 

[pittkesh99]

The OC at the time there was a guy named Jim Bob Cooter. Another poster is trying to blame Godsey for Stafford for having a "bad" year when the OC was Cooter...I mean, come on.

I mean sure, but Cooter was their OC for the two years before that and Stafford was much better…I don’t think it’s fair to fully just blame it on Cooter

 

[pittkesh99]

Before Godsey got to Houston, they had Matt Schaub and afterward they got Deshaun Watson. Both Pro Bowl guys. I’m more inclined to attribute the Texans’ dip in offense to pinning their fortunes on Ryan Mallett and Brock Osweiler.

Andrews fell off from elite to just okay because he suffered a catastrophic leg injury in 2023, one of the Joe Theismann types where your leg gains an extra joint.

Prime Stafford regressing is probably the best argument against, but he was also throwing to Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay as his WR1 instead of Calvin Johnson

In all, I see his experience as okay, not great and not awful. I don’t think we can expect a guy with a flawless resume to want to come here.

Again I understand all the arguments for why there was circumstantial stuff around Godsey (and I highlighted a couple of cases in my original post). Mark Andrews being hurt was in the middle of 2023…He has already regressed from his 2021 numbers through 2022 and the start of 2023.

Fair on Stafford, but he had that same receiving core the next year and looked much better before getting hurt

At the very least, he hasn’t done anything impressive in the NFL to make him a noteworthy hire, and I think the opinion of him is similar in the NFL since he keeps jumping between jobs.

That, combined with his lack of any recent college experience is what I think makes him a very deflating hire in what is such a crucial year for the future of this program

I hope Godsey is an elite OC and makes me eat my words. But I can’t see how one could possibly be excited about this hire unless you’re stuck with gold tinted glasses

 

[Lil G]

Hope this lands us a monster TE in the portal

 

[bigtechfan67]

Well chip Kelly does not recruit, a lot of people were excited about him because ohio state got a natty. Gotta give him a chance too

 

[a5ehren]

As someone who isn’t old enough to care about 1999 QBs, what makes Godsey qualified for this job? We wouldn’t even sniff him if he didn’t play here.