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Since its not confirmed now, go ahead and change your vote for Godsey. Just a random thought based on nothing else
Next OC, who ya got? (It’s Godsey)
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Since its not confirmed now, go ahead and change your vote for Godsey. Just a random thought based on nothing else
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Closed the barn door after the horses escaped.
Oh well, I'll start again. I'm happy with the hire...
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This
The comments were collateral damage. Lots of collateral
That mod sucks
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You start seeing grumpy mods here and it's indicative of one thing and one thing only. Let's just say that @slugboy got a little less than the large year end bonus he was planning for.
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Man, who gets a 1% raise???You start seeing grumpy mods here and it's indicative of one thing and one thing only. Let's just say that @slugboy got a little less than the large year end bonus he was planning for.
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I finally cast a vote, after much reflection. Please respect my decision.
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Voting is tricky. If I vote for Godsey, it's someone else. If I vote for someone else, it's Godsey
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Welp. I’m not excited about this hire but hoping for the best…
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LOL, I tried posting in the other thread but couldn't...then I found out why. Shame on you guys...
Anyhow, I'll post what I wrote here:
Ralph Friedgen (GT)
Charlie Taafe (UCF)
Bill O'Brien (Patriots, Texans)
Josh McDaniels (Patriots)
Chan Gailey (Dolphins)
Todd Monken (Ravens)
George O'Leary (GT, UCF)
Bill Belichick (Patriots)
Bill O'Brien (Texans)
Brian Flores (Dolphins)
John Harbaugh (Ravens)
The first list are the OCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
The second list are HCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
Godsey has coached under some Hall of Fame level coaches, and some of the best offensive minds this sport has seen. Does that translate into being a good OC at GT? No, but there's pedigree there, and it's a stamp that those level of coaches see a high level mind in Godsey. Everyone keeps pointing to his stint as OC of the Texans, I highly recommend you read up on that. There's a reason O'Brien and Godsey have not crossed paths since then. O'Brien Dabo Swinney'd Godsey there...and O'Brien was actually the main play caller. Godsey was not set up for success during his OC stint with the Texans.
IMO, I don't really think the hiring of Godsey changes all much in what GT will do. I think GT is going to do what Key said about his offense and defense: It's going to be a collaborative effort, with certain "core GT principles" that will continue on despite who the OC is. We saw it with Weinke as our OC in the Pop Tarts Bowl. There will be an option element, lots of 11 and 12 personnel, core Air Raid passing concepts, and Key wants GT to play smash mouth direct running the ball. At its best, I think our offense will look a LOT like what we saw against UGA in 2024:
Faulkner went away from that this year. Lots of east west behind the LOS passes, ineffective screens, stretch counter runs, and too much reliance on King in the run game.
You can see the difference in what we did last year and what we did this year from how much changed against UGA this year:
If you listened in the preseason, Faulkner made it known that he was installing new concepts from his visits to various pro and college teams in the offseason. Was Faulkner trying to show off all his "new toys" this year as a showcase for other teams? It was still an effective offense, but an offense that relied too much on the legs of its QB for the run game. Haynes King's 70% completion rate was masked by all the short east-west passing we did this year compared to last year.
Godsey will be a litmus test for Key's "interchangeable and collaborative" assistant coaching philosophy. Personally, I'm excited to see how Godsey's time with McDaniels and Monken translates to GT. McDaniels is one of the first coaches in the NFL to bring Air Raid and RPO passing to the NFL. Monken has had a top 5 offense since 2020 at UGA and the Ravens. Godsey is an ULTRA smart guy. He'll bring some things to GT that Faulkner's offense didn't have, while retaining the foundation of "core GT principles".
If you're a QB and TE, you should be excited by Godsey's hire. QBs are going to get to have NFL level coaching, work with Weinke, and work in with NFL level schemes. TEs get to play for an OC who has coached some all time great TEs in the NFL.
If the OC truly is Godsey, I can understand some of the disappointment. Sure, there were sexy names out there. Sometimes, it's not the sexy name that turns out to be the best fit. Remember, Faulkner was about as "sexy" as a NY strip from Golden Corral, but Key helped turn him into one of the most coveted OCs in college football. I was not impressed at all with Faulkner's hire at the time, but I was gladly proven wrong.
Let's see what Godsey can do. I don't think GT fans will be disappointed when it's all said and done.
Anyhow, I'll post what I wrote here:
Ralph Friedgen (GT)
Charlie Taafe (UCF)
Bill O'Brien (Patriots, Texans)
Josh McDaniels (Patriots)
Chan Gailey (Dolphins)
Todd Monken (Ravens)
George O'Leary (GT, UCF)
Bill Belichick (Patriots)
Bill O'Brien (Texans)
Brian Flores (Dolphins)
John Harbaugh (Ravens)
The first list are the OCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
The second list are HCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
Godsey has coached under some Hall of Fame level coaches, and some of the best offensive minds this sport has seen. Does that translate into being a good OC at GT? No, but there's pedigree there, and it's a stamp that those level of coaches see a high level mind in Godsey. Everyone keeps pointing to his stint as OC of the Texans, I highly recommend you read up on that. There's a reason O'Brien and Godsey have not crossed paths since then. O'Brien Dabo Swinney'd Godsey there...and O'Brien was actually the main play caller. Godsey was not set up for success during his OC stint with the Texans.
IMO, I don't really think the hiring of Godsey changes all much in what GT will do. I think GT is going to do what Key said about his offense and defense: It's going to be a collaborative effort, with certain "core GT principles" that will continue on despite who the OC is. We saw it with Weinke as our OC in the Pop Tarts Bowl. There will be an option element, lots of 11 and 12 personnel, core Air Raid passing concepts, and Key wants GT to play smash mouth direct running the ball. At its best, I think our offense will look a LOT like what we saw against UGA in 2024:
Faulkner went away from that this year. Lots of east west behind the LOS passes, ineffective screens, stretch counter runs, and too much reliance on King in the run game.
You can see the difference in what we did last year and what we did this year from how much changed against UGA this year:
If you listened in the preseason, Faulkner made it known that he was installing new concepts from his visits to various pro and college teams in the offseason. Was Faulkner trying to show off all his "new toys" this year as a showcase for other teams? It was still an effective offense, but an offense that relied too much on the legs of its QB for the run game. Haynes King's 70% completion rate was masked by all the short east-west passing we did this year compared to last year.
Godsey will be a litmus test for Key's "interchangeable and collaborative" assistant coaching philosophy. Personally, I'm excited to see how Godsey's time with McDaniels and Monken translates to GT. McDaniels is one of the first coaches in the NFL to bring Air Raid and RPO passing to the NFL. Monken has had a top 5 offense since 2020 at UGA and the Ravens. Godsey is an ULTRA smart guy. He'll bring some things to GT that Faulkner's offense didn't have, while retaining the foundation of "core GT principles".
If you're a QB and TE, you should be excited by Godsey's hire. QBs are going to get to have NFL level coaching, work with Weinke, and work in with NFL level schemes. TEs get to play for an OC who has coached some all time great TEs in the NFL.
If the OC truly is Godsey, I can understand some of the disappointment. Sure, there were sexy names out there. Sometimes, it's not the sexy name that turns out to be the best fit. Remember, Faulkner was about as "sexy" as a NY strip from Golden Corral, but Key helped turn him into one of the most coveted OCs in college football. I was not impressed at all with Faulkner's hire at the time, but I was gladly proven wrong.
Let's see what Godsey can do. I don't think GT fans will be disappointed when it's all said and done.
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Hopefully his NFL experience will be enticing to those already on the roster and to potential, future Yellow Jackets.
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LOL, I tried posting in the other thread but couldn't...then I found out why. Shame on you guys...
Anyhow, I'll post what I wrote here:
Ralph Friedgen (GT)
Charlie Taafe (UCF)
Bill O'Brien (Patriots, Texans)
Josh McDaniels (Patriots)
Chan Gailey (Dolphins)
Todd Monken (Ravens)
George O'Leary (GT, UCF)
Bill Belichick (Patriots)
Bill O'Brien (Texans)
Brian Flores (Dolphins)
John Harbaugh (Ravens)
The first list are the OCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
The second list are HCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
Godsey has coached under some Hall of Fame level coaches, and some of the best offensive minds this sport has seen. Does that translate into being a good OC at GT? No, but there's pedigree there, and it's a stamp that those level of coaches see a high level mind in Godsey. Everyone keeps pointing to his stint as OC of the Texans, I highly recommend you read up on that. There's a reason O'Brien and Godsey have not crossed paths since then. O'Brien Dabo Swinney'd Godsey there...and O'Brien was actually the main play caller. Godsey was not set up for success during his OC stint with the Texans.
IMO, I don't really think the hiring of Godsey changes all much in what GT will do. I think GT is going to do what Key said about his offense and defense: It's going to be a collaborative effort, with certain "core GT principles" that will continue on despite who the OC is. We saw it with Weinke as our OC in the Pop Tarts Bowl. There will be an option element, lots of 11 and 12 personnel, core Air Raid passing concepts, and Key wants GT to play smash mouth direct running the ball. At its best, I think our offense will look a LOT like what we saw against UGA in 2024:
Faulkner went away from that this year. Lots of east west behind the LOS passes, ineffective screens, stretch counter runs, and too much reliance on King in the run game.
You can see the difference in what we did last year and what we did this year from how much changed against UGA this year:
If you listened in the preseason, Faulkner made it known that he was installing new concepts from his visits to various pro and college teams in the offseason. Was Faulkner trying to show off all his "new toys" this year as a showcase for other teams? It was still an effective offense, but an offense that relied too much on the legs of its QB for the run game. Haynes King's 70% completion rate was masked by all the short east-west passing we did this year compared to last year.
Godsey will be a litmus test for Key's "interchangeable and collaborative" assistant coaching philosophy. Personally, I'm excited to see how Godsey's time with McDaniels and Monken translates to GT. McDaniels is one of the first coaches in the NFL to bring Air Raid and RPO passing to the NFL. Monken has had a top 5 offense since 2020 at UGA and the Ravens. Godsey is an ULTRA smart guy. He'll bring some things to GT that Faulkner's offense didn't have, while retaining the foundation of "core GT principles".
If you're a QB and TE, you should be excited by Godsey's hire. QBs are going to get to have NFL level coaching, work with Weinke, and work in with NFL level schemes. TEs get to play for an OC who has coached some all time great TEs in the NFL.
If the OC truly is Godsey, I can understand some of the disappointment. Sure, there were sexy names out there. Sometimes, it's not the sexy name that turns out to be the best fit. Remember, Faulkner was about as "sexy" as a NY strip from Golden Corral, but Key helped turn him into one of the most coveted OCs in college football. I was not impressed at all with Faulkner's hire at the time, but I was gladly proven wrong.
Let's see what Godsey can do. I don't think GT fans will be disappointed when it's all said and done.
I agree. My only worry would be whether Godsey would fall into the trap of trying to install an NFL scheme with too many intricacies for the limitations of college players. But I don’t think that will happen. He’ll be surrounded by seasoned college assistants like Weinke who will make sure he has a firm grasp of the limitations and constraints of the GT football program. Honestly, I’d be excited to see if he can do some fun stuff with pre-snap motion and forcing defenses to show their hand before the snap.
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LOL, I tried posting in the other thread but couldn't...then I found out why. Shame on you guys...
Anyhow, I'll post what I wrote here:
Ralph Friedgen (GT)
Charlie Taafe (UCF)
Bill O'Brien (Patriots, Texans)
Josh McDaniels (Patriots)
Chan Gailey (Dolphins)
Todd Monken (Ravens)
George O'Leary (GT, UCF)
Bill Belichick (Patriots)
Bill O'Brien (Texans)
Brian Flores (Dolphins)
John Harbaugh (Ravens)
The first list are the OCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
The second list are HCs Godsey has either played for or coached under.
Godsey has coached under some Hall of Fame level coaches, and some of the best offensive minds this sport has seen. Does that translate into being a good OC at GT? No, but there's pedigree there, and it's a stamp that those level of coaches see a high level mind in Godsey. Everyone keeps pointing to his stint as OC of the Texans, I highly recommend you read up on that. There's a reason O'Brien and Godsey have not crossed paths since then. O'Brien Dabo Swinney'd Godsey there...and O'Brien was actually the main play caller. Godsey was not set up for success during his OC stint with the Texans.
IMO, I don't really think the hiring of Godsey changes all much in what GT will do. I think GT is going to do what Key said about his offense and defense: It's going to be a collaborative effort, with certain "core GT principles" that will continue on despite who the OC is. We saw it with Weinke as our OC in the Pop Tarts Bowl. There will be an option element, lots of 11 and 12 personnel, core Air Raid passing concepts, and Key wants GT to play smash mouth direct running the ball. At its best, I think our offense will look a LOT like what we saw against UGA in 2024:
Faulkner went away from that this year. Lots of east west behind the LOS passes, ineffective screens, stretch counter runs, and too much reliance on King in the run game.
You can see the difference in what we did last year and what we did this year from how much changed against UGA this year:
If you listened in the preseason, Faulkner made it known that he was installing new concepts from his visits to various pro and college teams in the offseason. Was Faulkner trying to show off all his "new toys" this year as a showcase for other teams? It was still an effective offense, but an offense that relied too much on the legs of its QB for the run game. Haynes King's 70% completion rate was masked by all the short east-west passing we did this year compared to last year.
Godsey will be a litmus test for Key's "interchangeable and collaborative" assistant coaching philosophy. Personally, I'm excited to see how Godsey's time with McDaniels and Monken translates to GT. McDaniels is one of the first coaches in the NFL to bring Air Raid and RPO passing to the NFL. Monken has had a top 5 offense since 2020 at UGA and the Ravens. Godsey is an ULTRA smart guy. He'll bring some things to GT that Faulkner's offense didn't have, while retaining the foundation of "core GT principles".
If you're a QB and TE, you should be excited by Godsey's hire. QBs are going to get to have NFL level coaching, work with Weinke, and work in with NFL level schemes. TEs get to play for an OC who has coached some all time great TEs in the NFL.
If the OC truly is Godsey, I can understand some of the disappointment. Sure, there were sexy names out there. Sometimes, it's not the sexy name that turns out to be the best fit. Remember, Faulkner was about as "sexy" as a NY strip from Golden Corral, but Key helped turn him into one of the most coveted OCs in college football. I was not impressed at all with Faulkner's hire at the time, but I was gladly proven wrong.
Let's see what Godsey can do. I don't think GT fans will be disappointed when it's all said and done.
You said it much more eloquently than I could.
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Can someone with more ball knowledge explain why Godsey gets a bad rap for his experience?
2014-16, Houston went 9-7 each year and finished mid pack on offense in 14-15. That feels pretty good for a team with Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler, and Ryan Mallett at QB.
In 2021, Miami finished 9-8. Not the best year for him and Tua, but I think the offense taking off had as much to do with them getting Tyreek Hill as getting a new OC.
Baltimore’s TEs have performed well under him. Mark Andrews and Isiah Likely are two major targets. He was the Patriots’ TE coach during the Gronk/Hernandez years. He was the Lions’ QB coach post-Megatron, Stafford had some middling years but it was good enough to put up numbers.
Recruiting is a big hole in his resume to be sure, but I don’t remember him being a failed NFL project like the consensus seems to be…
2014-16, Houston went 9-7 each year and finished mid pack on offense in 14-15. That feels pretty good for a team with Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Brock Osweiler, and Ryan Mallett at QB.
In 2021, Miami finished 9-8. Not the best year for him and Tua, but I think the offense taking off had as much to do with them getting Tyreek Hill as getting a new OC.
Baltimore’s TEs have performed well under him. Mark Andrews and Isiah Likely are two major targets. He was the Patriots’ TE coach during the Gronk/Hernandez years. He was the Lions’ QB coach post-Megatron, Stafford had some middling years but it was good enough to put up numbers.
Recruiting is a big hole in his resume to be sure, but I don’t remember him being a failed NFL project like the consensus seems to be…
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Not excited about the hire, and I don’t understand why you can’t just announce an NFL coach moving on, but I think the collaborative effort on offense works best with guys that will stick around a while. Let’s hope we can move up a notch under godsey from the 30-40 range up into being a top 25 offense.