**** the mutts... post game

[takethepoints]

The teams that Gailey/CPJ teams lost heartbreakers to were not the same as the team Kirby has been rolling out. Records given going into the game. One score games:

2004: 9-2, top-10 team, heroic GT improvement to keep it close compared to 02 and 03
2005: 9-2, top-15, beat top-20 GT
2006: 7-4, brutal, beat #16 GT
2009: 6-5, super brutal, beat #7 GT
2010: 5-6 UGA beat 6-5 GT
2013: 7-4 UGA beat 7-4 GT

Need Kirby to either retire or go full Dabo and get the chance to play a UGA team with single-digit wins again to turn this thing around.

Now here I have to disagree. The example for Tech is Indiana. I looked at their 247 recruiting ranks for 2022 - 2025. They averaged 39.25 with the range of 30 (22) to 46 (24). (Tech averaged 45.5, but that includes TFG's last year (64).) They use the portal more than Tech, but they haven't gotten the money players from that. Mendoza was a low 3 star QB who turned out.

The point I'm trying to make here is that you don't have to have Smart's recruiting classes to beat Ugag or win championships. What you need is a building program and a willingness to back it. I think that's what's happening at Tech and it showed on the field both last year and this year. Georgia would love to not play us every year now. It is obvious that talent and coaching are evening out and that Key really wants to win that game every year. They are right to fear that, as is everybody else Tech plays.

 

[gtee91]

So, has anyone viewed the replay of the Hail Mary pass? Tell
Me what you think of the play on Rutherford in the EZ. If that’s called, it GT ball on 2 yard line. Interested in your opinions.

Hail Mary plays are rarely officiated...pure backyard football

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Tech runs the ball up the middle for short gain. Certain Tech fans: “We should have passed.”
Tech tries several passes in which King is pressured and throws it away. Certain Tech fans: “We should have run outside.”
Tech tries to run outside and gets stuffed. Certain Tech fans: “We should have run it up the middle.”
Offense plays well but defense stumbles. Certain Tech fans: “Fired the DC.”
Defense plays well but offense struggles. Certain Tech fans: “Fire the OC.”

Coach Key nominated for a Coach of the Year honor. Certain Tech fans: “He’s a lousy game manager, can’t prepare the team for big games, and he’s the reason we are only 9-3.”

There are some deep thinkers on this site.

 

[Root4GT]

So, has anyone viewed the replay of the Hail Mary pass? Tell
Me what you think of the play on Rutherford in the EZ. If that’s called, it GT ball on 2 yard line. Interested in your opinions.

Have you ever seen a penalty called in the EZ on a Hail Mary pass? The amount of pushing, grabbing, holding and pushing is over the top by both all players in all games.

I assume officials have just decided to not call penalties on those plays.

 

[Yaller Jacket]

As bad as we feel, the players and coaches feel worse. Especially Key.

Each year we lose in this streak magnifies the pain. If we were winning, say, a third of the time, we wouldn't take this so hard.

Why do we continue to run the ball so much when it becomes apparent we can't run block well enough to make first downs? We have some excellent receivers. King can tuck and run it he sees an opening. We can get Pi calls. I know the pass protection isn't there some times.

As bad as I feel, I still smile when I think of our 3 star defensive players battling their 4 and 5 star offensive players. In the second half we stuffed their runs over and over. We harassed Stockton. Three points in the second half. 260 total yards. 16 points total. As others have said, this is hard to understand. Where was this defense against NC SU and Pitt? Is our first year DC learning some things this year? Of course with both the DC and the OC we can't know how much influence Key had over what they call.

I appreciate the mods and my fellow posters. And in game chat. I enjoy having a chance to read other fans' views and expressing my own thoughts.

 

[stinger78]

Hail Mary plays are rarely officiated...pure backyard football

I don’t understand this response, but I did ask for your input. Thanks.

 

[Root4GT]

I don’t understand this response, but I did ask for your input. Thanks.

Bacocally anything goes by the defenders and receivers and the officials won’t call a penalty on anyone!

 

[GTRules]

Gold colored glasses

I apologize for not being suitably miserable.

 

[LT 1967]

Now here I have to disagree. The example for Tech is Indiana. I looked at their 247 recruiting ranks for 2022 - 2025. They averaged 39.25 with the range of 30 (22) to 46 (24). (Tech averaged 45.5, but that includes TFG's last year (64).) They use the portal more than Tech, but they haven't gotten the money players from that. Mendoza was a low 3 star QB who turned out.

The point I'm trying to make here is that you don't have to have Smart's recruiting classes to beat Ugag or win championships. What you need is a building program and a willingness to back it. I think that's what's happening at Tech and it showed on the field both last year and this year. Georgia would love to not play us every year now. It is obvious that talent and coaching are evening out and that Key really wants to win that game every year. They are right to fear that, as is everybody else Tech plays.

Interesting that you mentioned Indiana. I was just reviewing the Talent Composite rankings by 247 Sports. The 247 Talent Composite show the number of 4 Star and 5 Star recruits that are on each team's
total roster. A few things stand out concerning Georgia Tech, Vandy, Indiana, and Pitt.

GT---------39th in Country---8th in ACC----------12--4 Star Players (Brent Key)

Vandy-----55th in Country--16th in SEC (Last)----12--4 Star Players (Clark Lea)

Indiana---72nd in Country--18th in B1G(Last)-----7--4 Star Players (Curt Cignitti)

Pitt-------56th in Country---13th in ACC-----------8--4 Star players (Pat Narduzzi)

Obviously, these teams have good coaches and staffs. I remember seeing an ESPN story saying that Narduzzi had been named by some organization as the best developer of talent in the country.

I have always been a strong believer in the correlation between the recruiting levels and the performance on the field. However, these four Coaches are obviously doing more with less.

One other thing that three of these teams have in common is what some would call generational quarterbacks, King, Pavia, and Mendoza. I doubt we would say that about the Pitt freshman quarterback
yet, but he is obviously a good one.

 

[stech81]

Honestly, at this point, who cares

Because if you are a Tech fan it’s your job to hate them

 

[Root4GT]

Interesting that you mentioned Indiana. I was just reviewing the Talent Composite rankings by 247 Sports. The 247 Talent Composite show the number of 4 Star and 5 Star recruits are on each team's
total roster. A few things stand out concerning Georgia Tech, Vandy, Indiana, and Pitt.

GT---------39th in Country---8th in ACC----------12--4 Star Players

Vandy-----55th in Country--16th in SEC (Last)----12--4 Star Players

Indiana---72nd in Country--18th in B1G(Last)-----7--4 Star Players

Pitt-------56th in Country---13th in ACC-----------8--4 Star players

Obviously, these teams have good coaches and staffs. I remember seeing an ESPN story saying that Narduzzi had been named by some organization as the best developer of talent in the country.

I have always been a strong believer in the correlation between the recruiting levels and the performance on the field. However, these Four Coaches are obviously doing more with less.

One other thing that three of these teams have in common is what some would call generational quarterbacks, King, Pavia, and Mendoza. I doubt we would say that about the Pitt freshman quarterback yet, but he is obviously a good one.

Are those HS rankings? With all the transfers it’s hard to say but those are interesting.

 

[LT 1967]

Are those HS rankings? With all the transfers it’s hard to say but those are interesting.

According to the linked article, it does not include transfers. It is using HS rankings. See Excerpts below.

The Team Talent Composite has been a strong predictor of success in college football. Since its debut in 2015, 9 of 10 national champions have ranked in the top 10, with eight in the top six. The only exception was Michigan, the 2023 champion, which entered the season ranked No. 14.

It's worth noting that the 247Sports Team Talent Composite has limitations, as it excludes transfer ratings and doesn't account for players who overperform or underperform their high school rankings. Still, it provides a strong gauge of each team's roster talent and potential for success.

2025 Team Talent Composite's top 25 college football teams: Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, Oregon lead

Nine of college football's past 10 national champions began their seasons ranked in the 247Sports Team Talent Composite's top 10. Here's a closer look at 2025's top 25.

247sports.com

 

[slugboy]

Interesting that you mentioned Indiana. I was just reviewing the Talent Composite rankings by 247 Sports. The 247 Talent Composite show the number of 4 Star and 5 Star recruits that are on each team's
total roster. A few things stand out concerning Georgia Tech, Vandy, Indiana, and Pitt.

GT---------39th in Country---8th in ACC----------12--4 Star Players (Brent Key)

Vandy-----55th in Country--16th in SEC (Last)----12--4 Star Players (Clark Lea)

Indiana---72nd in Country--18th in B1G(Last)-----7--4 Star Players (Curt Cignitti)

Pitt-------56th in Country---13th in ACC-----------8--4 Star players (Pat Narduzzi)

Obviously, these teams have good coaches and staffs. I remember seeing an ESPN story saying that Narduzzi had been named by some organization as the best developer of talent in the country.

I have always been a strong believer in the correlation between the recruiting levels and the performance on the field. However, these four Coaches are obviously doing more with less.

One other thing that three of these teams have in common is what some would call generational quarterbacks, King, Pavia, and Mendoza. I doubt we would say that about the Pitt freshman quarterback
yet, but he is obviously a good one.

That makes me feel a bit better—we do need some game changing players, but it’s great to see Indiana doing so well

 

[jmahone]

One timeout left, something like 2:27 on the clock. We let it run to 2min warning, then stopped it after next play at 1:55. Georgia called TOs at 1:09 and 0:21.

If you call our TO at 2:27, doesn’t that sequence become: 2:27, 2:00, 1:16, 0:26?

Marginal change, but who knows, maybe you get a second Hail Mary, or throw another mid one. Or the threat of a 20 yard sideline throw changes how they line up defensively.

Just doesn’t seem like we maximize the clock ever.

Once. Once we maximized the clock. Fire drill FG.

 

[bke1984]

Hail Mary plays are rarely officiated...pure backyard football

Yea, but that’s bull****. You can’t just ignore the ****ing rules because it’s an unlikely completion.

 

[tomknight]

Because if you are a Tech fan it’s your job to hate them

I don’t anything red if that helps

 

[takethepoints]

Btw,. I see that I posted my impressions of the game twice in separate threads. What happened was that I finished the first draft, saved it, then inadvertently changed threads. I couldn't see my impressions so I wrote another draft in the other thread. This happened because of a) a senior moment or b) a beer and four wines during the game. I hope it's b , but I fear it was a.

Well, anyway, thanks for the likes and sorry for taking up the bandwidth.

 

[stinger78]

Yea, but that’s bull****. You can’t just ignore the ****ing rules because it’s an unlikely completion.

Rutherford got tackled in the EZ while the ball was in flight. Given the ticky-tack PI that was called to give them a TD last year to tie the game, this is particularly egregious to me. But that's just life, I suppose.

 

[takethepoints]

According to the linked article, it does not include transfers. It is using HS rankings. See Excerpts below.

The Team Talent Composite has been a strong predictor of success in college football. Since its debut in 2015, 9 of 10 national champions have ranked in the top 10, with eight in the top six. The only exception was Michigan, the 2023 champion, which entered the season ranked No. 14.

It's worth noting that the 247Sports Team Talent Composite has limitations, as it excludes transfer ratings and doesn't account for players who overperform or underperform their high school rankings. Still, it provides a strong gauge of each team's roster talent and potential for success.

2025 Team Talent Composite's top 25 college football teams: Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, Oregon lead

Nine of college football's past 10 national champions began their seasons ranked in the 247Sports Team Talent Composite's top 10. Here's a closer look at 2025's top 25.

247sports.com

I wonder if these rankings include the 2025 recruitiing classes. This came out in August and I'm guessing it doesn't include the 2025 class because Tech does have one 5 star - Petty - on roster. (And they had better do everything they can to keep him; the young man is a real factor.) Otherwise, this is probably as good a gage of recruiting as you can find. I'll watch out for it next season.

 

[7979]

I thought it was $10 Million?

30 pieces of silver