New playoff model

[L41k18]

Take away the ACC games and they would have a hard time filling out a schedule.

I believe this is key and may one day lead to ND having no choice but to join the ACC. All P4 teams now have 9 conference games. Many have an OOC P4 rival they play every year. Every team wants (at least) 2 guaranteed Ws against G6/FCS teams.

How will ND get 12 games moving forward??? Get that future popcorn ready.

 

[SOWEGA Jacket]

ND would have teams lining up to schedule them. You guys thinking they wouldn’t be able to come up with a 12 game schedule is funny. We had to move our game with them to the Benz to make room for all that cash a season ago and now magically they wouldn’t be able to find opponents? Everyone wants that cash.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

ND would have teams lining up to schedule them. You guys thinking they wouldn’t be able to come up with a 12 game schedule is funny. We had to move our game with them to the Benz to make room for all that cash a season ago and now magically they wouldn’t be able to find opponents? Everyone wants that cash.

Who wants to play them late in the season? USC has already pulled out.

 

[L41k18]

ND would have teams lining up to schedule them. You guys thinking they wouldn’t be able to come up with a 12 game schedule is funny. We had to move our game with them to the Benz to make room for all that cash a season ago and now magically they wouldn’t be able to find opponents? Everyone wants that cash.

A few years ago, maybe.
But now the tv contracts are where the cash is, more than attendance. If you're a good team with 9 conf games - and maybe another P4 game - why risk a loss? It's simple math.

If everyone is getting in line to play ND, why is their schedule so ratchet?

 

[LT 1967]

Texas AD calls for end of Conference Championship games. Article and excerpt below.

Chris Del Conte gives his take on College Football Playoff schedule, expansion​

Instead of the Playoff starting and ending later, Del Conte is calling for the Playoff to start in early Dec., in place of Conference Championship games. This would allow the Playoff to end earlier, aligning with school schedules and the Transfer Portal.

“I’m also in favor — why have a conference championship game? Let’s start the playoffs that week, right?,” Del Conte said. “Start the playoffs that week, and let’s play every single week, and the semifinals are played on New Year’s Day, which IS college football, and the national championship a week later. That’s what I’d like to see, but I’m one vote. But this is where we need to get to.”

MSN

 

[stinger 1957]

It is all about making the playoffs, Miami not even being in ACC CG and making the playoffs ( ACC champion not making it ) tells me all I need to know going fwd about where the conference CGs are eventually headed, they just gotta figure out how to make up the lost revenue, probably expanding the playoffs to 16 teams would be my guess.

The TV folk are looking for the best games that will get the most viewers and they are driving the bus completely.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Who wants to play them late in the season? USC has already pulled out.

BYU

 

[Root4GT]

It is all about making the playoffs, Miami not even being in ACC CG and making the playoffs ( ACC champion not making it ) tells me all I need to know going fwd about where the conference CGs are eventually headed, they just gotta figure out how to make up the lost revenue, probably expanding the playoffs to 16 teams would be my guess.

The TV folk are looking for the best games that will get the most viewers and they are driving the bus completely.

This and since Fox televises the B1G CG and ESPN has the CGP TV rights it may be a few years to settle out

 

[billga99]

This and since Fox televises the B1G CG and ESPN has the CGP TV rights it may be a few years to settle out

If they went to 24 games, eliminating Conference Championships would be a given. If they go to 16 teams, it would be the same amount of rounds as today but the first round would be 8 games vs. 4 games. If 16 games, I would like first round to be at higher seed, second round at neutral site, semis at traditional New Year's bowls and then the finals. Promise you the quarters could be played at the same bowls as today but at an earlier time.

 

[TampaBuzz]

If they went to 24 games, eliminating Conference Championships would be a given. If they go to 16 teams, it would be the same amount of rounds as today but the first round would be 8 games vs. 4 games. If 16 games, I would like first round to be at higher seed, second round at neutral site, semis at traditional New Year's bowls and then the finals. Promise you the quarters could be played at the same bowls as today but at an earlier time.

If they go to 16 teams...it is really simple. Blow up the current conferences and create eight (8) new, 16-team conferences. The Conference Championship games are round one of the playoffs (2 teams per conference). Easy...and the best part is no selection committee or ESPN/FOX leaning on the scales.

 

[Root4GT]

If they went to 24 games, eliminating Conference Championships would be a given. If they go to 16 teams, it would be the same amount of rounds as today but the first round would be 8 games vs. 4 games. If 16 games, I would like first round to be at higher seed, second round at neutral site, semis at traditional New Year's bowls and then the finals. Promise you the quarters could be played at the same bowls as today but at an earlier time.

The issue between the B1G and the SEC (they control the CFP) is it takes over 16 teams to reopen the TV rights for the CFP. That is the sticking point and why the B1G says 24 teams or bust. At 16 teams, ESPN keeps the TV rights for the CFP.

 

[g0lftime]

If they go to 16 teams...it is really simple. Blow up the current conferences and create eight (8) new, 16-team conferences. The Conference Championship games are round one of the playoffs (2 teams per conference). Easy...and the best part is no selection committee or ESPN/FOX leaning on the scales.

Too logical and doesn't allow SEC to keep their PR advantages.

 

[RamblinRed]

The issue between the B1G and the SEC (they control the CFP) is it takes over 16 teams to reopen the TV rights for the CFP. That is the sticking point and why the B1G says 24 teams or bust. At 16 teams, ESPN keeps the TV rights for the CFP.

This is a big deal and why the P3 are unlikely to support more than 16 right now. I'm sure ESPN has had discussions with the P3 and especially SEC about this topic.

On the flip side, college football as a whole is likely giving up money by allowing ESPN to control the postseason - they have the CFP and they own and broadcast most of the bowl games.

The B1G realized it was better to have its media rights split between different entities, part of the reason their overall media payout is the largest in college football. (That and the fact they have the largest universities and college football). Similar to the NFL splitting its rights.

 

[forensicbuzz]

This is a big deal and why the P3 are unlikely to support more than 16 right now. I'm sure ESPN has had discussions with the P3 and especially SEC about this topic.

On the flip side, college football as a whole is likely giving up money by allowing ESPN to control the postseason - they have the CFP and they own and broadcast most of the bowl games.

The B1G realized it was better to have its media rights split between different entities, part of the reason their overall media payout is the largest in college football. (That and the fact they have the largest universities and college football). Similar to the NFL splitting its rights.

Which conference are you dropping to get to a P3?

 

[GT1990CHAMPS]

If they go to 16 teams...it is really simple. Blow up the current conferences and create eight (8) new, 16-team conferences. The Conference Championship games are round one of the playoffs (2 teams per conference). Easy...and the best part is no selection committee or ESPN/FOX leaning on the scales.

Huh? By your math the equivalent of the sunbelt and MAC would each get 2 teams. Four conferences of 10 or 12 teams each would be plenty. Let the rest become a new division with their own playoffs.

 

[Root4GT]

Which conference are you dropping to get to a P3?

His point was ESPN has a P3 of the SEC, ACC and Big 12 as far as TV rights and the CFP. The B1G is the outlier with Fox, CBS and NBC splitting the TV coverage for the B1G.

The B1G/their networks want the CFP at 24 because that would force the TV deal for the CFP to renegotiated.

Does that make sense?

 

[forensicbuzz]

His point was ESPN has a P3 of the SEC, ACC and Big 12 as far as TV rights and the CFP. The B1G is the outlier with Fox, CBS and NBC splitting the TV coverage for the B1G.

The B1G/their networks want the CFP at 24 because that would force the TV deal for the CFP to renegotiated.

Does that make sense?

I would love for the CFP deal to be renegotiated. Then ESPN wouldn’t have as much leverage.

 

[GT1990CHAMPS]

His point was ESPN has a P3 of the SEC, ACC and Big 12 as far as TV rights and the CFP. The B1G is the outlier with Fox, CBS and NBC splitting the TV coverage for the B1G.

The B1G/their networks want the CFP at 24 because that would force the TV deal for the CFP to renegotiated.

Does that make sense?

Not so sure the Big 3 would include the ACC. Might be closer than you think….. location, location, location

 

[SOWEGA Jacket]

Not so sure the Big 3 would include the ACC. Might be closer than you think….. location, location, location

The ACC is gonna be raided as soon as the buy out drops. That’s a given. The playoffs will be at 24 as soon as the current contracts either expire or renegotiated. The only hold up to 24 teams is the SEC and the ESPN contract. They eventually will be paid off somehow and then we’ll be at 24 with auto bids and the next round of expansion will take place and the ACC will be gutted. I can’t wait. And GT will be included because our territory is too fertile. If the SEC won’t take us back the BIG will jump all over a southern pod including GT, Miami, and a few others.

 

[TampaBuzz]

Huh? By your math the equivalent of the sunbelt and MAC would each get 2 teams. Four conferences of 10 or 12 teams each would be plenty. Let the rest become a new division with their own playoffs.

What part of "blow up the existing conferences and create eight new" did you not understand? The SEC teams get scattered to the wind and split up between the eight new conferences. The Big10 get scattered to the wind and split up between the eight new conferences. Same for the ACC, the BIG, and all the rest.