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stinger78

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I'll say you are directionally correct. That's all anyone can be on NIL/profit sharing stuff at the moment. None of it is verifiable at this time.
All we do know is the system is both breaking and fixing itself at the same time. Would that there be a governing body that could aim the ship, but it’s already among the rocks and breaking apart. The NCAA is waiting around for the axe to drop. The only silver lining is that this appears to be the only route to a new ship.
 

RamblinRed

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Tommy_Taylor_1972

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ACC is looking at reduing the number of conference games from 20 to 18 so they can play more (high profile) non conference opponents.

Good idea. Gives good teams to win more Quad 1 games outside the conference, since there are not that many in-conference. Easier to make the better score in the NET rankings toward NCAA tournament selection. Not to schedule weak teams, especially pay-out games, since won-loss records nor win margin do not count in NET rankings.
 

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Quads are just a way for the NCAA to help the SEC cheat.

play garbage schedules or don’t beat anyone and then claim to be great, like Carolina, Gonzaga and Louisville.
 

orientalnc

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14-2 vs the ACC last year blows that argument away as far as ACC Teams go.
I don't think @Peacone36 was touting the ACC. I agree with him that some teams loaded up their schedules with weak teams, and two of them were in the ACC. Maybe more.

My take on the SEC this year is that they had four really good teams. Not so much beyond that. But, Sankey has convinced the sporting world that SEC s**t doesn't stink and the world is buying it.
 

57jacket

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SEC had 4 really good teams this year. And 4-5 more were good. ACC was clearly down. But the current MBB situation is so dynamic with the transfer potal that almost every team is a essentally a new team each year. Let's see if the ACC brought in the talent to again have 4-5 really good teams.
 

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I don't think @Peacone36 was touting the ACC. I agree with him that some teams loaded up their schedules with weak teams, and two of them were in the ACC. Maybe more.

My take on the SEC this year is that they had four really good teams. Not so much beyond that. But, Sankey has convinced the sporting world that SEC s**t doesn't stink and the world is buying it.
Last year the SEC crushed all conferences in non Conference games. That established their NET/Quad rankings prior to Conference play.

That was not gamesmanship or Stanky pulling a fast one. Rather it was superb on court performance by nearly every team in the SEC in OOC games.

Is the system flawed? Yes, badly. But it is an equal system for all Conferences. Last year the SEC excelled in Nov-Dec non conference games.

This will be a new season and as said with the amount of transfers it’s hard to carry over from year to year.

The ACC needs to step up across the Conference including GT in OOC games or it will be another 4 team or so making the NCAAT from the ACC.
 

Jack

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Last year the SEC crushed all conferences in non Conference games. That established their NET/Quad rankings prior to Conference play.

That was not gamesmanship or Stanky pulling a fast one. Rather it was superb on court performance by nearly every team in the SEC in OOC games.

Is the system flawed? Yes, badly. But it is an equal system for all Conferences. Last year the SEC excelled in Nov-Dec non conference games.

This will be a new season and as said with the amount of transfers it’s hard to carry over from year to year.

The ACC needs to step up across the Conference including GT in OOC games or it will be another 4 team or so making the NCAAT from the ACC.
True that!
 

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I like the power conference home & homes against unique opponents but I have a feeling the resume-building teams we would want aren't going to be interested in one with us. Great, you gave up a home game against Notre Dame and a road game at Boston College and replaced them with a home game against DePaul and a road game at Penn State. What difference does it make?

Our best selling point is that the Bruce Pearls and Darian DeVries of the world would get an opportunity to showcase their team/fanbase for metro Atlanta high school recruits at the McCamish leg.
 

AUFC

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Look at the schedule. Pretty weak for 3 months. People were talking about them being underseeded but they didn’t play/beat anyone.

I agree they were good but they were seeded properly
Their non-conf was solid and they won a few respectable games. But yeah, I mean they are stuck playing Saint Mary's and then a bunch of tomato cans for January-March. They made a good call switching to the Pac 12 - I expect that to be a fun conference when 2026 rolls around. Wazzu and Oregon State are good fanbases who will embrace basketball now that they are in a hoops-first conference. San Diego State and Utah State can stand on their own merit for basketball. Boise State and Colorado State are both heading the right direction.

I could see the new Pac 12 being a better basketball conference than the ACC.
 

lauraee

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Their non-conf was solid and they won a few respectable games. But yeah, I mean they are stuck playing Saint Mary's and then a bunch of tomato cans for January-March. They made a good call switching to the Pac 12 - I expect that to be a fun conference when 2026 rolls around. Wazzu and Oregon State are good fanbases who will embrace basketball now that they are in a hoops-first conference. San Diego State and Utah State can stand on their own merit for basketball. Boise State and Colorado State are both heading the right direction.

I could see the new Pac 12 being a better basketball conference than the ACC.
Wonder if UCLA, USC, Oregon, & Washington will miss that PAC12 after a couple more years of constant jetlag flying to all those Big 10 campuses not on the west coast.
 

forensicbuzz

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14-2 vs the ACC last year blows that argument away as far as ACC Teams go.
Stop with this garbage. It was 1-to-1, which means that their 1 was better than our 1. If our 1 played their 2 through 16 they probably would have won. Same with ACC2 versus the rest of the SEC, and so on. That 14-2, while impressive, was a mixture of luck and timing. They play the same games at the end of the season and it’s a different story.
 

Jazzchaz

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ACC is looking at reduing the number of conference games from 20 to 18 so they can play more (high profile) non conference opponents.

Why do they cling to this 'two games against a permanent rival (home and away)' nonsense? Everybody knows it's so Carolina can play dook and NC State twice each year and that's fine. But it's absurd to think many other schools in the ACC want locked in home and away opponents. Other than dook or Carolina, I couldn't care less who we play twice and I doubt we will develop a rivalry with any ACC team anytime soon.
I can understand assigning us Clempson so Atlanta folks can travel a shorter distance, but that's it.
 
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